Indie-List_V2_N12 the INDIE-LIST DIGEST / / volume 2, number 12 (August 17, 1993) "A Trial Makes A Customer... Established in 1992 And Still Growing!" This week in Indie-List: Giveaway #3 Boo! Indie List contribution Message from the Moderator: akjef;jaife;ajfj Concert Review (for Indie List) CURSE v. KCMU Update indie-list stuff tsunami, sebadoh, tiger traps, and sold out shows... Re: Reviews- Dog Faced Herm oops, maybe late indie list submission ********************** From: Mark <cornick@delphi.com> Subject: Giveaway #3 I have here a copy of Poole's "Tangle Up" 45 on SpinArt. (This is the same 45 that was part of the Pop Licks boxed set, but it's on black vinyl instead of red, and has a picture sleeve.) This 45 will be given free of charge to the first person who can tell me the name of Steve Albini's cat. (Hint: this was in a recent Indie-List mailing.) Management and staff of Indie-List, prior giveaway winners, and anyone who works for a major label are not eligible to win. Good luck! ********************** From: Mark <cornick@delphi.com> Subject: Boo! First: Apologies are in order to Rob Vaughn. I did not intend to imply (in the FAQ) that he is either (a) a net.elitist, or (b) the Army Intelligence Agency. Rob's not the AIA, I am. (Well, my dad is an AIA agent, so they undoubtedly have a file a yard long on me. :-) Uh, the Friendly debutante party originally scheduled for this Sunday (the 22nd) has been pushed back to September 5th. Same Bat-time, same Bat-station. The Eeyore tour wound up on Saturday night at Richmond's Club Colours with Sockeye opening. Sockeye were their usual bowel-rocking selves, there's not a lot that can be said about them. Their live show is just as demented as their records. Ah well. Eeyore pulverized the audience with three hours of the most brutal techno ever loaded on a Richmond audience... well, anyway, imagine a fifth-grade version of Caroliner with an Oedipus complex and you've got the basic gist of Eeyore. Nice costumes, interesting things were thrown from/to the stage, and I guess the music was pretty good too. (I live with some of Eeyore, so I can't really say anything bad about them or they'll throw me out. By the way, they apologize to anyone injured during the show. And thanks to everyone who cleaned up the styrofoam pellets.) Recommendation: Enjoy a glass of limeade this week. There are several down sides to Richmond being the former capital of the Confederacy and thus a definite "old South" city -- actual bumper sticker seen here: "I'm the CSA... And I Vote" -- but one of the good things is that you can still get good old soda-fountain limeade (or lemonade, or what have you) at several places here. I'd forgotten how much I liked the stuff, living in Charlottesville (which is more or less a suburb of Washington these days, and thus a Yankee city more than a Dixie city.) Only one new record this week, but oh what a record it is... - THE BOO RADLEYS, "At The Sound of Speed" (Creation/SpinArt, PO Box 1798, NY NY 10156-1798): The Boo!sters manage to shake free of the MBV comparisons on this 45; the Krautrock influences are more evident here, but this definitely rocks harder than most of the _Everything's All Right Forever_ LP. You still get those wonderful three-martini-afternoon swooning vocals, too. (And trumpet!) This is the perfect soundtrack to sitting out on your back porch, just watching clouds roll by, with the one you love. (Or whatever form of slacking off you most enjoy.) Typically nice faux-Aztec sleeve, too, and beautiful streaked-magenta vinyl. Easily one of the best things SpinArt has put out (since Sony won't touch non-Pearl Jam 7" vinyl with a ten foot pole, I guess Creation worked some deal with SpinArt for this 45 -- all the better for us), and one of Boo!'s finest singles. ***. (BTW, SpinArt's new "top" logo looks a lot nicer than their old logo. :-) I happen to think this is a very good issue; thanks to everyone who contributed... ********************** From: Matt Kelly <MATTKELLY@antioc.antioch.edu> Subject: Indie List contribution Well, I'm all moved into my new place and I'm starting to get back into the hobby aspects of life. ie: working on my zine, my BBS and going to shows. This week was an amazing series of events from being told that my place of work will be on the internet soon and that I can get a UUCP feed for my BBS, to being put in my friend's will, and seeing 3 great shows 3 nights in a row! Tuesday 8-10-93 Thurston Moore/Free Kitten/Truman's Water/Tiger Trap at Slims in San Francisco. I don't like Slims much, I don't like the whole feeling of the place, but they occasionally get a good show and this was a good example. Tiger Trap really impressed me. The songs I already knew from the album were executed so much better live, and the band really has a strange, but enchanting stage presence. Truman's Water were incredibly energetic and noisy. They won my heart with a song that I swear steals some licks from and Early Sonic Youth song. If I could just remember the title. The TW song is about Gina Arnold (an annoying local columnist in the East Bay Express who just wrote a book about Nirvana) (Hi Gina! Call my BBS! 415/648-PUNK) and man, they just rocked. I'd never heard them before but i ran out the next day and picked up the L-O-N-G and groovy CD on Homestead. Free Kitten didn't do much for me at all. A couple songs that kinda sounded a little like Sonic Youth were ok, but this combo of people isn't the kind of thing I'd spend much time listening to. But what am I complaining about? The show only cost $5 and I did get in. Unlike the 30 or so people who had to stand outside the window next to the stage. Instead of Free Kitten doing an encore, Thurston Moore (who just happened to be tagging along for the Lollapalooza Etc. tour) came on stage and played 3 songs solo with just his guitar. The three songs (I believe) were called Self-Obsessed and Sexy, Pat Smear (about someone from The Germs and SST records), and a short maybe unfinished tune called Star Fuel Road. I was very happy to have stuck out FK even though they sucked. Punk Rock Celebrity Spottings at Slims that night: Dale from the Melvins, Blag from the Dwarves, Lisa Carver, and an ex-girlfriend of mine. Wednesday 8-11-93 Tsunami/Tiger Trap/Pineapple Princess at Brave New World in San Francisco. Pineapple Princess were a silly two-some who played Eukalales with distortion and covered such great songs as "I wanna be your Boyfriend by the Ramones" (I think they sang Girlfriend, but I'm not sure) and Roll out the Barrel. Ha Ha. I guess I don't find this kind of thing funny. But their friends did. Tiger Trap were in even better form tonite. They were probably more comfortable with this crowd which by all accounts was friendlier and more fun than the one the night before. They played a couple songs they said they'd never played in front of people before, and did a 3 song encore. Go see Tiger Trap when you can. They'll charm your new Breeders Promo socks off. Tsunami were just great! My friend Michele said they didn't sound anything like they did when she saw them years back before they'd released any records. But they were worth all the hype. Dreamy, Droney, the kind of music that makes me feel like I'm having a really emotional dream and that I'm going to wake up crying. I was surprised how much the album sounds like they sound live. I talked to Jenny a little bit after the show to buy a t-shirt and tell her that the eco-packaging on my Tsunami CD has been scratching it each time I take it in or pull it out and that now it skips. She said "There are only 2000 of them like that" and I said "Oh, I guess I should sell it to a collector then". I don't think I made a very good first impression. 8-12-93 Sebadoh/Smog/Ford at Bottom of the Hill in San Francisco. I dissed Ford pretty bad in my last review of them. And I'm gonna do it again. I don't like them one bit. (Sorry Kath) They played an ok (I guess) short set and started to leave the stage. I was kind of surprised, but glad because I wanted to see the other bands much more. But they played an encore for some reason, and about 1/2 way through the first song in the encore the guitar player/singer grabbed her face and I thought she might be crying. Then she puked all over herself. It was truly strange. The club was really hot, and they were playing pretty hard, so I guess I understand what happened, but it sure was weird. Then suddenly the club erupted in people telling stories about other people in bands who had puked on stage. Weird. I've never seen Smog play before, but they did a really nice slow set of catchy songs. I couldn't tell if there were 3 or 4 people in the band, but they had some keyboards, (sometimes) violin, guitar, bass, guitar, drums and vocals. I taped their set, and I'm looking forward to listening to it again. Great lyrics to the songs. Sebadoh played a 85% great 15% so-so show. A couple of songs were messed up by Lou when he either forgot the lyrics or was really distracted by the strings on his 12 string guitar breaking. They played a bunch of songs that I love including "Really Insane" and "Homemade" (two guys behind me were arguing about whether or not the song was about a bong! :) ). Seb. cut back and forth between the more sensitive-Barlow-love-type songs and Jason's more in-your-face songs like "Sister". Lots of people heckled and called out for their favorite songs (which were often played..except "Freed Pig" and "Whitey Peach" heh heh) and argued amongst each other because it was so damn hot in this way-way oversold club. I wouldn't have missed this show for the world. Sebadoh are such an amazing band. I taped it and I'm looking for more live Sebadoh, so drop me a line if you have anything to trade! :) Look for a Sebadoh Discography and Questionaire in Cool Beans! #2 which will be out sometime in the next month. In case you had the misconception that San Francisco indie-rock audiences were really sophisticated or something, I'd like to let everyone know that at all 3 of these shows people were almost constantly yelling "Freebird". Man, I don't get it. SF news: I dunno, I heard the Quake might close, that the Dwarves weren't really kicked off Subpop, and that they might break up. Cool Beans! BBS has a new number... 415/648-PUNK (7865) and I've got all the Indie Lists online available for downloading. UUCP feed soon as well as PUNK-NET. Write me eh? I love to trade tapes and talk music. - Matt mattkelly@antioch.edu (not matt_kelly@antioch.edu as was previously printed) (gosh this was long) ********************** From: "K. Lena Bennett" <keb@u.washington.edu> Subject: Message from the Moderator: Sorry the indie list is a little late; completely my fault. ObSebadoh: The show last night at the Off Ramp was a bit mixed. I only see about 5 or 6 shows a year, because I work 8-5 and am old and greying and hate smoke, so usually I hope they are worth it. It was great to see Lou, anyway (not only is he a great songwriter, he's every guy I had a crush on in college). The first 20 minutes or so were Eric's songs and a couple of Jason's, with Eric playing Lead guitar and Lou on bass (great playing!). These songs really rocked and I was jumping up and down and even dancing a little (who says you can't dance to this kinda stuff?). The playing was fun but not very tight, and they did a really sloppy version of "Elixir is Zog" that was barely recognizable except that it's such a weird song anyway. There were all these large testosterone cases front and center and when Lou switched to lead they started heckling him for a sensitive wimp. I think they are just jealous because their girlfriends probably think Lou is a lot cooler than these guys. Lou was really pissed and slammed on them, saying that Seattle was full of it and as bad as the East. I felt bad for him, coz I know there were a lot of people who supported him, but just couldn't overpower the gorrillas. He only played a few songs, promising to play acoustic out in the parking lot for people who felt cheated. I don't know if this ever happened. And he didn't play anything sweet and sensitive (no wonder). He finished up with "Soul Mate" (can anyone tell me where this song can be found?) and "Gimme Indie Rock" (which I've never heard before -- he did a great imitation of Mascis-style guitar-wank in the middle) -- the latter song I wondered whether it was intended astatement on the mentality of the neanderthals who obviously came to the show full of preconceived notions. Anyway, I was disappointed and frustrated in general, but it wasn't a total washout. And I have my Sebadoh discs :) [ "Soul Mate" is on _The Freed Weed_. Which, I guess, means it's on _The Freed Man_ as well. - Mark ] Lena keb@u.washington.edu doors don't close behind me they fall off their hinges -- Tsunami ********************** From: Steve Silverstein <ST201268@BROWNVM.brown.edu> Subject: akjef;jaife;ajfj OK. Where to start? 2 Fugazi shows in 3 days may just be too much. But it was quite swell nonetheless. Saturday's was at the Sylvan Theater, and was a Positive Force deal. Lots of speakers (Kelly and the folk at Riot Grrrl, some guy whose last name is Farina about communism from a group I missed the name of, and another guy from DC SCAR--Student Coalition Against Racism, plus some other speakers--oh and a Positive Force person who is trying to start a local listener-supported station, WDIY--We Dig it Yeah!). Anyhow, on to the music. The first band, Isalda, couldn't make it, as they had to return to Chile (I believe). I missed their replacement, a Peruvian band from in the mountains. The second was an all-woman gogo band called Pleasure. Decent, but not too spectacular. They brought all sorts of people up from the crowd to sing, dance and participate, which was a lot of fun though. Finally, Fugazi, who played an amazing show, from the opening "Brendan #1" to the encores from the first EP. Highlights included "Nice New Outfit", "Turnover", "And the Same", and "Cassavettes", plus many many more. An hour and a half of great music. The crowd was generally pleasant, as Ian requested, except during "Waiting Room", the first encore. Ian was unusually humorous and not at people's expense. He made jokes about the line at the Washington Monument (how no one ever gets to the top anymore, they just wait in line), and other such things. Plus a nice story about growing up during the riots after King was assassinated (it was the MLK Concert for Justice) around St. Stephen's Church (where his family belongs , now site of Positive Force shows). Tonight's show, while excellent, did not measure up. The opener was anew band whose sole identifiable member (to me) was Dug E. Bird on bass. He was in usual form, but the music still has a bit to go. No clue if they had a name. The show was at Fort Reno Park, with a gigantic crowd. Ian asked everyone to give to Fort Reno to keep up the great shows, which they've been doing 25 years but may soon lose funding. Guy asked everyone to support AIDSWalk, whom Lollapalooza this year wanted to pay for a table (after providing one for free the past 2 years). "Beware of things even if they are labelled alternative", he cautioned. Ian and Guy both seemed quite upset with the absurd violence in the crowd (at the front). It was a nuisance to them and most in attendance, and they really picked on a ton of people. Ian also whined about the cold he got Saturday night in great detail. On to the music, since I'm sure this crap is quite boring. I just left the show and am sorting it out. Anyhow, the highlight was obviously "Suggestion", even though I did not recognize the woman who sang it with Ian (as Guy flailed his arms and danced about the stage). It was great. The music was good, but not up to par with Saturday's show. About an hour set. Little other news. small factory/Heavenly/Lois may stop in Baltimore on the 6th, Bowdoin or Providence on the 9th, Boston on the 8th. No other news on that. And small factory are back out on the road, possibly with Versus, in October. No dates yet. An interesting tidbit. Has anyone else ever heard the compilation FR-5? It has the weirdest old Shudder to Think song from 1987. The title is "Too Little Too Late", and it sounds little like the great band they would become. Chris has short hair in the picture on the back. A useless comment. -Steve ********************** From: Tom Meyer <tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com> Subject: Concert Review (for Indie List) (I've lurked for a while, but now I have something to post about) Jean Paul Sartre Experience/Straitjacket Fits/The Bats - Lounge Ax, Chicago 6Aug A friend of mine (fellow Indie-List'er Mike Trogni) talked me into going to this "NoiseyLand" show, although I was tempted to blow him off because he blew me off the last time I was supposed to meet him at Lounge Ax to see Eleventh Dream Day. I'm glad I went, though. The JPS Exp. led off. I admit I didn't even know who the hell was playing until I went to get a beer and looked at a poster on the window. They were impressive. LOTS of reverb and whah-whah going on, but these great songs just kept kinda rising out of the incredibly loud PA (I swear, every time I go to Lounge Ax my ears ring for at least 2 days). They were kinda a cross between Husker Du (one guy did play a Flying - V gittar) , Sonic Youth and The Beatles. I'm sure they've worn out their vinyl copies of EVOL and New Day Rising. Straitjacket Fits was next. It was wierd they were on second. The clerk at the store where I subsequently bought their latest, Blow, told me that was because in other cities people were leaving after the Bats. By this time, the place was pretty crowded. We had edged our way up to about 15 feet away from the stage, thereby abusing our ears even more. The singer's voice didn't really appeal to me at first. He seemed to try to "sing" a little too much (can you say Pearl Jam?). The songs and musicianship were pretty solid, though. Much more straightforward than the JPS Experience. They seemed to get louder (several people around us were clutching their ears in pain) and noisier as the went on, which is I guess why I ended up liking them. The Bats played last. They didn't do much for me. They seemed very folksy, kinda Pogues-ish. I left after like 4 songs, my ears felt really abused and I was tired. Overall, a really good deal for just 10 bucks. I didn't know there were so many New Zealand-ers in Chicago. Go see this tour if you get the chance. Any Chicago Indie-Listers see the show (our esteemed Mail Manager in particular :- ) ?? What's been gracing my ears at home, you ask?? (out of ***) Bettie Serveert - Palomine ** Superchunk - On the Mouth * JPS Experience - Bleeding Star * Straitjacket Fits - Blow * Sebadoh - Bubble and Scrape ** / The Freed Weed ** Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville ** (ok, so I'm kinda generous with the ratings and it ain't very Indie, so sue me!) [ whaddaya mean, not "very indie"? it's not like you reviewed Kenny G or something... go on man! - Mark ] later, Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lou Barlow Says: "senTRIdoh, SEBadoh, poLEdo, FUKKIN' SEAT!!" --------------------------------------------------------------------- ********************** From: Julie Carter <a-julic@microsoft.com> Subject: CURSE v. KCMU Update CURSE= Censorship Undermines Radio Station Ethics, a nonprofit organization formed to return democracy and increase community control at KCMU. *The latest info. from KCMU: Tom Mara, the formerly full-time development director, is now working half-time at KCMU (and half-time at KUOW). Chris Knab, station manager, has voluntarily taken half-time status (his health is bad). Rumor has it that Don Yates, program director, may also be half-time at this point, or will be soon. All the paid DJs have been laid off. Reportedly, the UW is currently keeping the station afloat (which it has not done in recent years). *Negotiations continue between representatives of CURSE and the UW about the future of KCMU. Progress has been impeded/slowed by the ongoing Husky football situation and by the slow progress of the 'KCMU Task Force,' which was created by UW management and which has reportedly not been meeting very regularly. *Depositions for the lawsuit were postponed because of an emergency situation involving the representative of the attorney general's office, but by the end of August, Chris Knab, Wayne Roth, and all the plaintiffs on the other side of the lawsuit will have been deposed. *KCMU (as well as KUOW and KING-FM, apparently) has recently been plugging 'The Public Radio Music Source,' a mail-order service that offers to provide virtually any music you hear on the air on the given station--another way in which these stations are veering away from being community oriented (by, in effect, discouraging listeners from doing business with local merchants). *An article in the new issue of CURSEword (hot off the presses; should be available around town and/or arriving at your home soon, if you're on the mailing list) discloses the former salaries of KCMU employees. Chris Knab was earning > $28,000/yr, Tom > $24,000, and Don > $20,000. Dennis and Kevin (paid drive-time DJs who were hired/fired in the past several months) were earning $9.00 and 8.50 per hour, respectively--more than either Debbie Letterman or Riz Rollins (previous paid drive-time DJs). To be added to the CURSE mailing list, send your name and address to Kathleen Thompson @ Microsoft. *Donations to the CURSE escrow account can be sent to P.O. Box 85839, Seattle, WA 98145. *Letters of protest about the current situation at KCMU can also be sent to P.O. Box 85839, Seattle, 98145. CURSE will photocopy your letter and give copies to the appropriate people at the UW, if you like. *The next CURSE benefit will be held August 24 @ the Re-Bar. Bands include Meddaphysical, the Lemons, and Kitchen Radio. *CURSE softball games continue. Games have been played against the Seattle Art Museum, The Rocket, The Stranger.... To be added to the softball phone-calling list, call Neil Sussman at 367-3276. Remember, CURSE condemns all threats, harassment, violence, and other illegal acts. Thanks for your support! For more information, as always, call 206/298-CURS. Julie ********************** From: Richard J Puerzer <rjpst3+@pitt.edu> Subject: indie-list stuff This is my first submission to the indie-list. I've been lurking for a few months but have been so moved by the quality and quantity of the Pittsburgh music of late that I had to let the world know. Well, that and I guess I have some time. Anyways, here are some reviews and such: Wimp Factor 14:_Ankle Deep_ (Harriet Records) =This marks the first full length effort by WF14 as well as the first CD release on Harriet (I dunno if there is vinyl but I would assume so). This is happy indie pop: ukelele, justification for working for Rockwell International, the packaging, everything. Produced by Rob Eggs and featuring the drumwork of Tom Hoffman of The Karl Hendrick's Trio, this will just make you happy all the time. Two standout tracks are "I Is For Incomplete" which details the trials and tribulations of the college all-nighter/ grades/ changing of priorities with the nicest of guitar strums and "Steam Rolling, But It Wasn't Steam Rolling" with beautiful female backing vocals and a slow pace. Cool manila envelope envelope packaging and some info on their legal tussles with the National Band Name Regulation Act included. You can snap your fingers to it and I give it *1/2. The Karl Hendricks Trio: _Misery And Women_ (Fiasco) I forgot to write down the address for fiasco but you can get the KHT's other stuff and probably this for Peas Kor, 813 Romine, Port Vue PA, 15133. Ok, I have seen these guys play probably a dozen times and loved their earlier stuff, especially the 10", but I think that this is their greatest achievement to date. The title clues you into the content of 99% of the lp/cd (YES on CD!!). "Do You Like To Watch Me Sob" starts the record off in a hurry, "Get Out Your Hankies For This One" follows and shows a big Wedding Present influence, both musically and lyrically, which I don't think is too dominant or bad. A couple of ballad-like tracks, namely "Romantic Stories From The War", make this record less predictable than the aforementioned Weddos or Superchunk. My fave is "You Must Be A Bigger Jerk Than Me" mainly because from the opening riff to the beautiful end my heart just wants to stop beating and end all this sadness. Great stuff. Excellent cover art too. This should be pretty widely distributed and is very highly recommended. I saw Steve Shelley digging them at the second stage at Lollapamosquito too. Up there for me with the American Music Club for album of my year and thus it gets **1/2. Hurl: "Radishes" b/w "Positronic Wave" (DeSoto) They have added a 2nd guitar since their first single "Turnip" and have gotten a little louder. Although this is very very close to Seam et al in many ways, it is still pretty good. I think there is an EP or album on the way soon too. I like it: * The Don Caballero has been covered sufficiently, awaiting the new Touch&Go album. We are getting Peter Jefferies and Alastair Galbraith 8/18 at the BBT and Polvo sometime in Spetember. Things are so much better indie wise than a year or two ago. Some more records: Sammy: "Babe Come Down" b/w "Roach Girl" (Smells Like Records) Restrained Pavement noise-wise with all the catchiness intact on the Aside. I like the record a lot but know nothing of the band. Lots of dogs on the cover art. Pretty cool: * I am also listening to Eleventh Dream Day:_El Moodio_ (doing for me this summer what Yo La Tengo's _May I Sing With Me_ did last), Teenage Fanclub "Radio" cd EP, Moonshake _Eva Luna_(c86 meets PIL meets Th' Faith Healers), Cakekitchen and The Bats and The Dead C and John Paul Sarte Experience and This Kind Of Punishment from the New Zealand front, Paul Westerberg (yes, it is hard to get my favorite band out of my system, there are still pieces of the greatness left), and ... (so many records so little time). Hope this tunes everyone into the Pittsburgh music scene. This wasn't so bad, perhaps my days of lurking are done. I am a changed man. rich rjpst3@unixd.cis.pitt.edu ********************** From: Tim Wicinski <wicinski@polyp.barn.com> Subject: tsunami, sebadoh, tiger traps, and sold out shows... tsunami/tiger trap/pineapple princess brave new world, 8/11/93 i had to blow off pell mell the night before, as well as the free kittens (haven't seen julia since real old pussy galore)/truman's water (can't stand them)/tiger trap show, in order to rest up and be ready for this show and the next night. pineapple princess is a lovely female duo who play ukeleles and sing songs like "tiny bubbles" and "take me back to old virginny". sort of fun, and silly. finished up with black flag's "wasted again" which was the perfect ending (they should of done all old punk covers, but...). tiger trap were truly truly excellent. from where i was, the sound was squashed, but near the pa's you could hear the vocals quite well...all the stuff from their K lp, and then some. nice sound, better harmonies on the vinyl, but then again brave new world does not have a good sound system. they played a long time, switched instruments, and played some more. whew! tsunami looked tired when they came on, and after playing in los angeles the night before and having to be in tuscon in two nights, i could see why. their set was not as punchy as the last time they came thru san fran, but i was also getting pretty beat and liked the way they slowed down. lots of new stuff, plus gold digger (kristin doesn't sing as much as she should if you ask me), and the my dad is dead cover (water's edge) no encore, it was almost 1, but it felt later...the collectors gathered around the singles table, as i caught a ride back thru town... thursday was the sebadoh san fran appearance, but it was sold out and i am really really really bummed. people hawkign $20 tickets out front to a stupid fuckin' bar. gimme a break. went home and listened to tunes. thought about getting high-powered weaponry and taking out some lawyers to help cool my jets, but i tossed the coin and listen to my lois record instead... not too many new records this week, more should be on their way. lamer, tim ********************** [Jens originally posted this on a.m.a. but I thought it was indie-list kinda stuff so I asked him to submit - K.] From: Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@quickmail.apple.com> Subject: Re: Reviews- Dog Faced Herm This is Great Music we got here, so listen up -- dig we must: ** Dog Faced Hermans "Mental Blocks For All Ages" LP (De Konkurrent) / "Hum of Life" LP (Project A-Bomb) After hearing a lot about them, I finally got to hear two of their albums courtesy of my friend M@. This is absolutely terrific stuff; experimental, catchy, noisy, rhythmic, intense, witty, and above all relentlessly intelligent. The obvious influences include (but are not limited to) the Fall, (early) Sonic Youth, Savage Republic, (early) Hunters & Collectors, and probably other Usual Suspects I'm not so familiar with, e.g. Can and Ornette Coleman. This is a group that will, on "Jan 9", careen along through a grinding bass-driven riff, sing about the humanization of science (footnotes crediting Buckminster Fuller) and at the end swerve into a Romanian gypsy tune before wrapping a bow around the whole thing. Picking apart the sound, we have a female singer/trumpet player who writes lyrics the caliber of: "The first thing / we can hope for / after the next / great catalypsis / Is that the sun / Will come up / Over the bridge / Like it did / Yesterday / And the day before. / But by then / We'll all be indians anyway. / White indians / Dark indians/ White indians / Dark indians..." Or how about "This sound has no waves / It moves, cuts swathes / Through fog and other grey things". Her vocal delivery owes a lot to Mark E Smith and sometimes also reminds me of Polly Harvey or of Bleach's Salli. The guitar sound ranges from ringing noise a la early Sonic Youth [viz. "Astronaut", a take on "Society Is a Hole"] through fuzztone surf and occasionally more usual sounds. The bass is heavy and grinding, just the way I like it, and the drumming fairly complex with some good tribal-type beats. In fact, they somehow remind me a lot of Moonshake even though the sound itself is different. I think it's that both groups write terrific lyrics and like to experiment with sound, ending up sounding like nothing much else I can think of. ** Moonshake "Big Good Angel" EP (Too Pure) Speaking of Moonshake ... their newish EP is great. The sound is basically the same as on "Eva Luna" -- the oozing dub bass, scratchy guitar, bizarre burbling samples, Margaret cooing / David yowling -- if perhaps a bit more up-front, less ornate. You get three Margaret songs and three Dave songs in strict alternation. Dave has toned down his Lydonisms a bit, and I find his song structures more interesting than most of his stuff on "Eva Luna". Margaret's songs as always are stunning. For a guitarist, she writes the most interesting rhythm sections ... "Girly Loop" in particular is one of the most irresistibly funky appropriations of the Funky-Drummer beat I've heard since "Soon". "Where do I pick up a wild woman? `In the woods where the wild women grow -- not like you waiting by the gate expecting things to happen'..." Summary: Four-star listening experiences all. They'll be rotating through my CD player for some time, thanks to M@'s two-week vacation to England... :) --Jens Alfke Please do not feed peanuts to my deity. jens_alfke@quickmail .apple.com ********************** From: The Stupidity Patrol <lim7@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: oops, maybe late indie list submission Well, Washington DC has been hopping just a bit more than usual this last week (10-17). First, there was another free Fugazi show at Fort Reno Park... They played about half a set of old stuff and half from the new one (if that much). Ian went off on some nasty skinhead boys- Guy called them "ice cream eating motherfuckers." Enjoyment for the whole family. Oh and the music wasn't bad either, although the sound wasn't so hot. The bad boys in Fugazi were joined onstage for guest vocals by (I think) the lead singer from Slant 6, with possible Autoclave connections (the Dischord scene brings naught but confusion for me). [ uh, yup, Christina Slant-6 used to be in Autoclave. Slant-6 might be the band that gets me listening to HC again. Maybe, maybe not. -Mark ] Thursday night was Velocity Girl with Tree Fort Angst. Fool that I am, I didn't bother buying tickets before hand (never had, never will), and it sold out even before the day of the show (although they let in another 20 when the doors opened). Friday night was Edsel with Eggs at the 9:30, but my friends wanted to stick around the house.... I haven't picked up many records, but I did get my hands on the prize of a lifetime: the Miaow "When It All Comes Down" 12" (courtesy of Hagen from Germany). Truly an excellent song, although not as exciting, since the Unrest cover is virtually note for note. Includes 2 versions of the smash hit, as well as a b-side which is rather good as well. Now only a 12", 7" and a comp track from being a Miaow completist. The big news, of course, is the release of Unrest's "Perfect Teeth" box set of 7" singles. About 2000 were made and are now ready for consumption by YOU, the hip indie person. It's more in line with Imperial than anything else, but the mood is kind of somber for the most part. Phil puts in a song, and Bridget does a few as well. Pretty good from first listen, I really like the pop smashes Makeout Club and Cath Carroll. Packaging? Kinda cheap box, spiffy colored wax a la the Cath Carroll single and nice, thick paged lyric booklet (actually the import CD booklet with a nice Mapplethorpe photo of Mrs. Durango. [Possible corporate advertisement:] Other TeenBeat news: Mark E is mixing/remixing a Superchunk 7" called "Precision Auto," which features both Mark and Mac on backing vocals (rather interesting ones at that). The new Blast Off! 7" will be out towards the end of the month. The 3rd one is due early winter, with a CD compilation of all three singles soon after. The new Eggs double LP/CD has been delayed until November and possibly January if they don't get their artwork in soon.... PS- the line about the Unrest box set having bonus tracks is a shameless appeal to collector scum. In fact, if you have the Isabel single or ep and the Cath Carroll single, you'll get one extra track if you buy the box set versus the album, and some of the versions will be shorter. But if you must, pick up the swanky black boxed sets, which are pretty and more durable than the regular cardboard (the first 2/3 of the 2000). Basically if you want low numbers, ask for it, but if you want the better boxes, you'll get the high numbers. The Stupidity Patrol o o "...although the ratio of news to lim7@midway.uchicago.edu > drivel in many newsgroups compares 12XU! o unfavorably with the back of a (Temporarily residing in DC) cereal box..." -Cecil Adams ********************** THE INDIE-LIST DIGEST is published every Tuesday by Indie-List Infotainment Junta, Unltd. (A Non-Entity.) Editor: Mark Cornick <cornick@delphi.com> Moderator: K. Lena Bennett <keb@u.washington.edu> Mail Manager: Liz Clayton <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu> Archvist: Sean Murphy <skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu> Articles for next week's issue should be sent to Lena. Questions, comments, complaints, and review material should be sent to Mark at the address above, or by US mail to 324 S Cherry St, Richmond VA 23220. Write for phone number. Explanation of this week's Indie-List Buzz Phrase: Bill's Barbecue is a Richmond-based fast-food BBQ chain. Their slogan, for years, has been "A Trial Makes A Customer." Personally, I think it makes more sense the other way around, but that's just because I've had hospitality-industry training. Another phrase that pops up from time to time on Bill's stuff is "Established In 1930... 'And Still Growing!'" So there you go. Is Bill's food of sufficient quality to merit this (ahem) honor? Well, no, not in my opin